Bill McIntyre wrote:But I don’t get why the line coming off the reel directly makes a fish tear off when running it through the line guide doesn’t. It’s the drag that matters and running it through the line guide only adds more friction. The line is coming off the reel through my hand either way. What does the line guide add?
I'll try my best to explain... First, when I shoot fish on a reel as soon as I get to pulling up the line or the fish rocks up or stops I tighten the drag. If I don't tighten the drag I will always have problems... If the fish is rocked up there is always current/waves so if I'm diving the fish my gun is now 300' away and instead of reeling in 70' I have a huge mess and a crappy angle of line to dive. If its a running and fighting fish situation, when I go to pull in the fish and swim up the line I also tighten the drag. If I leave it loose and it gets tugged or is in a bunch of wave action it's almost guaranteed to start bird nesting and get tangled. If that fish runs again and I have loose line around a reel that isn't going through the front guide it gets wrapped on the reel, reel handle, or handle.
Also, when you don't have the line through the guide and you leave the gun, the gun does whatever it wants. This could mean turning 180* from you. When this fish runs again even if you only have a little drag the line has to pull out at 180* from the guide, or 90*, whatever... it takes a lot more force than straight forward through the guide. If its through the guide and the fish pulls the gun will turn and run straight. When the gun gets back to me I stop the gun and this almost always allows the line to run or I quickly loosen the drag. But the line is always running out the reel forward out the guide how it is supposed to. Never at 90* or more which always creates more pressure.
Last scenario, what if you pull up the line and gun, now behind you, gets line tangled on the reel? If you have 50' of line behind you and the line is through the guide the gun will run straight forward with little drag until it gets to you, you can prevent a tear out. If you don't have it through the guide, the fish is pulling a big gun from the center like I explained before.
There are so many scenarios where running it through the line guide is much better. The first thing I always to is make sure the bands are flipped over the top and go with the fish so they stay that way.
I realize most people may never see some of these things play out or if they do they may not think to much about it. I've just happen to see some of these situations but to me situational awareness is the number one criteria of spearfishing if you want things to go right.
Bill, I guess back to what you said directly I'm talking about when I big fish runs and you can't hold on any longer. You are just guiding the line but the drag comes from the gun which is way behind you. That's how I've had these things play out.