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castronova wrote:I just got 2 hunt 8mm shafts for my Denton 120, they are one of the nicest shafts I think I've ever seen. Dean/Mori quality with a fully recessed flopper. You'll really like them.
AJP wrote:Can you post a pic or two of the sharkfins and notch area of one of these Hunt shafts? Thanks.
Behslayer wrote:what is the function of having the hole for line attachment mid shaft? I see this a lot but I thought it was more for Rollerguns.
castronova wrote:The shafts I order from Dean I always get an extra shark fin added on just for the line hole. That is usually just in front of the loading fins equally spaced, not mid shaft. I rather not load on the same fin as the line. I feel like there is less chance of the crimp whipping back over the top and grabbing the wishbone. I like the cleaner look as well. Just preference I guess and that is my theory but I can't say its true it does make me more comfortable though.
Behslayer wrote:Why would a shaft with a Mid point connection have less chance of having a band tangle? From what I know if a gun is prone to band tangles the connection point in the middle makes no difference? By that I mean that one time we were trying to figure out why a gun would have a band tangle. We identified a few things but when we did try using a shaft with a mid point attachment it did not make a difference. What is the theory behind it?
Behslayer wrote:Hi Phil, I thought it might make a big difference. Peter Tylor did a truly exhaustive research on Band Tangles all using High Speed Cameras and Slo Motion from various angles. If it was as simple as midpoint connection on a shaft that would be nice, but it's not. There is a what I could best describe as a wave length to each line and gun which results in the possibility of loops of line interacting with the bands near the bandslot. I figured by changing the length of the line in the first loop to the mid point of the shaft maybe you would adjust the wavelength so that loop did not occur right near the band slot. But it didn't happen that way. If you are having band tangles consistently, you can think to change your line. If you are having them with Mono, try Dyneema. If you are having them with Dyneema, try Mono, cable etc. Cable has less tendency to band tangle, but when it does it sucks because it cuts your bands and or snaps and you lose the shaft. I'm playing around with different positions for the front line guide too. but I always figured those mid point Shafts were really designed for Rollers because as the back of the shaft passes through the rollers there is no line to get hung up in the cinch. I guess the same is true for Classic Band guns, but that's not what causes tangles in classic band guns. ie there is no Cinch.
castronova wrote:He's absolutely right on this. While most the time I have to dive to get grouper out of ledges anyway sometimes you can swim in front of the ledge and pull them out. With this set-up it's not worth wasting your time. I also get smaller fish like mutton snapper and yellowjacks getting the shaft jammed in between rocks or wrapped on fans, etc. more often with the center point attachment and you can't simply pull them around small obstacles like a tail end attachment shaft.
phil herranen wrote:castronova wrote:He's absolutely right on this. While most the time I have to dive to get grouper out of ledges anyway sometimes you can swim in front of the ledge and pull them out. With this set-up it's not worth wasting your time. I also get smaller fish like mutton snapper and yellowjacks getting the shaft jammed in between rocks or wrapped on fans, etc. more often with the center point attachment and you can't simply pull them around small obstacles like a tail end attachment shaft.
On the plus side, with a pass threw shot your flopper shaft turns into a slip tip
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